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Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 29, 2006 11:50 PM
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Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
is most welcome.
I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
& Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
do so when the need arises.
That's it.
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 30, 2006 5:42 AM
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Hi Jim,
+1.
This is great! I fully support this project.
Wbr,
Victor Latushkin
Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
>
> I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
> country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
> a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
> English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
> initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
> expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
> been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
> and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
>
> In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
> access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
We have www.opensolaris.ru pointing to the MOSUG homepage right now.
> etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
> Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
> maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
> interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
> please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
> thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
> is most welcome.
>
> I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
> project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
> & Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
> community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
> since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
> interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
> We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
> individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
> within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
> do so when the need arises.
>
> That's it.
>
> Jim
> --
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> http://opensolaris.org/ | http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 31, 2006 11:35 PM
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Victor Latushkin wrote On 10/30/06 22:42,:
> Hi Jim,
>
> +1.
>
> This is great! I fully support this project.
Cool. I'd love to see the site in Russian. :)
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 30, 2006 5:43 AM
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On 10/30/06, Jim Grisanzio <Jim dot Grisanzio at sun dot com> wrote:
> Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
>
> I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
> country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
> a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
> English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
> initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
> expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
> been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
> and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
>
> In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
> access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
> etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
> Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
> maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
> interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
> please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
> thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
> is most welcome.
>
> I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
> project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
> & Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
> community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
> since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
> interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
> We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
> individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
> within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
> do so when the need arises.
>
> That's it.
>
> Jim
> --
+1
can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for contributors
nacho
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 30, 2006 11:33 PM
in response to: nacho
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+1
> can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for
> contributors
A huge +1 to that! :)
Venky.
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:43:37AM -0300, Ignacio Marambio Cat?n wrote:
> On 10/30/06, Jim Grisanzio <Jim dot Grisanzio at sun dot com> wrote:
> >Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
> >
> >I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
> >country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
> >a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
> >English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
> >initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
> >expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
> >been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
> >and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
> >http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
> >
> >In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
> >access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
> >etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
> >Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
> >maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
> >interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
> >please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
> >thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
> >is most welcome.
> >
> >I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
> >project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
> >& Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
> >community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
> >since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
> >interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
> >We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
> >individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
> >within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
> >do so when the need arises.
> >
> >That's it.
> >
> >Jim
> >--
> +1
> can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for
> contributors
>
> nacho
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 31, 2006 11:53 PM
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Venky wrote On 10/31/06 16:33,:
> +1
Thanks!
>>can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for
>>contributors
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> A huge +1 to that! :)
Sorry, I don't have wiki to offer. But I hope you get involved anyway.
Having the site in multiple language could change the dynamic of the
community significantly as we engage more people.
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Nov 1, 2006 1:02 AM
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> >>can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for
> >>contributors
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> >A huge +1 to that! :)
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> Sorry, I don't have wiki to offer. But I hope you get involved anyway.
> Having the site in multiple language could change the dynamic of the
> community significantly as we engage more people.
Sure. The wiki was a long shot anyway! :)
Venky.
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Nov 2, 2006 8:31 AM
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> Sorry, I don't have wiki to offer. But I hope you get
> involved anyway.
I'm confused - the OpenSolaris site is already a wiki right now? - only it has more restricted access rights than your typical wiki environment.
~mm
> Having the site in multiple language could change the
> dynamic of the
> community significantly as we engage more people.
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> Jim
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Re: Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Nov 2, 2006 6:51 PM
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> > Sorry, I don't have wiki to offer. But I hope you get
> > involved anyway.
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> I'm confused - the OpenSolaris site is already a wiki right
> now? - only it has more restricted access rights than your
> typical wiki environment.
True. It does allow you to edit pages from within the browser.
The main problem is that unlike most wikis nowadays, it does not
support revision control. That makes it tough to open up access
rights because there is no way to revert vandalized pages back to
older revisions. We are essentially stuck with having a
restricted set of people with edit privileges for each page.
Venky.
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 31, 2006 11:44 PM
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Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote On 10/30/06 22:43,:
> +1
> can we do this as a wiki? that should lower the entry barrier for
> contributors
Hi ... The site infrastructure will stay as it is for these portals and
will be managed from a technical perspective just as the main site is.
Each portal group, however, will have to build a little community around
their own translation efforts. They and their leaders will determine who
does the actual translations, who gets access, etc since they are the
closest to their given areas. The foundation for that is really already
set up within the globalization community. We'll need to flush some of
this out when the project is formed. Much work to do, but the framework
is already established. I'll be continuing these conversations on the
i18n discuss list.
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 30, 2006 8:26 AM
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Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
>
> I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
> country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk
> in a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
> English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
> initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
> expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
> been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks
> internally and on the Internationalization & Localization Community
> discuss list:
> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
>
> In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
> access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
> etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
> Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates
> and maintains the site via the various portals. There is already
> significant interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to
> get involved please stay tuned for our project opening. For more
> background, see the thread above. The conversation there is ongoing,
> and your participation is most welcome.
>
> I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
> project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the
> Internationalization & Localization Community. I'd like to tie the
> project as closely to that community as possible and use their lists
> as well. This only makes sense since the community members on those
> lists have the most expertise and interest in this area. So, for now,
> all we need is a project space. We'll have conversations on
> i18n-discuss to get going, and when individual portals are ready they
> can split off into existing lists within that community. If we have to
> create new lists, we can certainly do so when the need arises.
>
> That's it.
>
> Jim
> --
> Jim Grisanzio, Engineering Community Manager, OpenSolaris
> http://opensolaris.org/ | http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
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+1
My pleasure to bring up cn.opensolaris.org in China.
Thanks,
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Sun China Engineering & Research Institute
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Oct 31, 2006 11:50 PM
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Joey Guo wrote On 10/31/06 01:26,:
> +1
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> My pleasure to bring up cn.opensolaris.org in China.
Excellent! I sort of expected that China would be a big part of this
project. Welcome! You guys are leaving everyone in the dust with your
OpenSolaris university program, so having a Chinese opensolaris.org
should only help. Cool ....
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals
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Thanks, Jim. Your project proposal has seconds. I'll contact you offline
to get you set up.
Eric
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
>
> I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
> country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
> a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
> English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
> initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
> expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
> been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
> and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
>
> In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
> access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
> etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
> Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
> maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
> interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
> please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
> thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
> is most welcome.
>
> I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
> project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
> & Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
> community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
> since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
> interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
> We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
> individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
> within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
> do so when the need arises.
>
> That's it.
>
> Jim
> --
> Jim Grisanzio, Engineering Community Manager, OpenSolaris
> http://opensolaris.org/ | http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
>
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals
foropensolaris.org
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Hi Jim,
I18n community would like to endorse this project. Please let me know when the project has been set up, so that I can update the I18n community website with endorsed project list.
I like the idea to use existing i18n mailing lists for the country portal project until the project teams see the need to create separate ones explicitly for country portal development discussion in the future. I'll also try to help in the Korean community and other areas.
best regards,
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Re: Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals
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Young Joo Pintaske wrote On 11/02/06 02:34,:
> Hi Jim,
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> I18n community would like to endorse this project. Please let me know when the project has been set up, so that I can update the I18n community website with endorsed project list.
Thank you. :) I'll open it up as soon as I can.
> I like the idea to use existing i18n mailing lists for the country portal project until the project teams see the need to create separate ones explicitly for country portal development discussion in the future. I'll also try to help in the Korean community and other areas.
>
Ok, cool. I think we have more than enough lists. No need to create new
ones for this function.
Jim
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals
foropensolaris.org
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Thanks, Eric. I opened the project page:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/portals
Anyone interested in participating, sign up to i18n-discuss:
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/int_localization/discussions/
Jim
Eric Boutilier wrote On 11/02/06 00:02,:
> Thanks, Jim. Your project proposal has seconds. I'll contact you offline
> to get you set up.
>
> Eric
>
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2006, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
>
>> Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for opensolaris.org
>>
>> I propose a project on opensolaris.org for the creation of
>> country/language portals for the website. Having opensolaris.org talk in
>> a variety of languages is critical for engaging developers in non
>> English-speaking regions of the world. I will help lead the effort
>> initially, but I'm very much seeking additional leaders who have more
>> expertise than I have. Which shouldn't be difficult, actually. We've
>> been having some initial conversations for a couple of weeks internally
>> and on the Internationalization & Localization Community discuss list:
>> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=15327&tstart=0
>>
>> In short, the OpenSolaris website team will provide infrastructure
>> access to top level domains (jp.opensolaris.org, cn.opensolaris.org,
>> etc) for the purpose of translating the site, and the Country/Language
>> Portal Project will create and manage the process of who translates and
>> maintains the site via the various portals. There is already significant
>> interest from Japan, Korea, and India, so if you'd like to get involved
>> please stay tuned for our project opening. For more background, see the
>> thread above. The conversation there is ongoing, and your participation
>> is most welcome.
>>
>> I'm seeking seconds for the proposal, community participation in the
>> project, and an endorsement from the leaders of the Internationalization
>> & Localization Community. I'd like to tie the project as closely to that
>> community as possible and use their lists as well. This only makes sense
>> since the community members on those lists have the most expertise and
>> interest in this area. So, for now, all we need is a project space.
>> We'll have conversations on i18n-discuss to get going, and when
>> individual portals are ready they can split off into existing lists
>> within that community. If we have to create new lists, we can certainly
>> do so when the need arises.
>>
>> That's it.
>>
>> Jim
>> --
>> Jim Grisanzio, Engineering Community Manager, OpenSolaris
>> http://opensolaris.org/ | http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/
>>
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals for
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Nov 30, 2006 8:48 AM
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Jim, my primary language is spanish, so count on me to work on this.
Greetings.
HeCSa.
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Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals foropensolaris.org
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How can we get a local portal for mexico running, please help me.
Project Leaders:
Ivan Zavala - Karoshi
Paulo Kalapis - Sun Microsystems
Jorge Angel - Sun Microsystems
Angel Camacho - Sun Microsystems
Gerardo Horvilleur - Java Champion
Thanks
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Re: Re: Project Proposal: Country/Language Portals
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Posted:
Mar 12, 2007 2:11 AM
in response to: ivanz
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Hi, Ivan ...
I can help you. Background on country portals here:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/portals/ and also on the i18n
list. I'll follow up with you off this list.
Thanks,
Jim
Ivan Zavala wrote On 03/10/07 01:00,:
> How can we get a local portal for mexico running, please help me.
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> Project Leaders:
> Ivan Zavala - Karoshi
> Paulo Kalapis - Sun Microsystems
> Jorge Angel - Sun Microsystems
> Angel Camacho - Sun Microsystems
> Gerardo Horvilleur - Java Champion
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> Thanks
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