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Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 12, 2008 10:45 PM
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It had been just a couple of days back that I downloaded Virtual Box
sources to build on OpenSolaris and below piece of news arrives.
Sun has bought Virtual Box:
http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/sun_grabs_virtualbox
Interesting aspects about Virtual Box:
1. It is a native virtualization and full virtualization meaning it
allows an unmodified guest OS to run (unlike xVM/Xen on OpenSolaris)
2. It has been available under dual license - open source and commercial
3. Finally the reason that got me interested - It probably is one
solution supporting widest array of host operating systems (including
OpenSolaris based platforms)
(http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads)
regards
Shivakumar
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 12, 2008 11:16 PM
in response to: gns
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S h i v wrote:
> It had been just a couple of days back that I downloaded Virtual Box
> sources to build on OpenSolaris and below piece of news arrives.
>
> Sun has bought Virtual Box:
> http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/sun_grabs_virtualbox
>
> Interesting aspects about Virtual Box:
> 1. It is a native virtualization and full virtualization meaning it
> allows an unmodified guest OS to run (unlike xVM/Xen on OpenSolaris)
>
Correction. xVM/Xen also allows unmodified Guest OSes to run like Windows
in hardware assisted virtualization mode that uses the AMDV and IntelVT
processor extensions.
We have successfully run WinXP/Vista on xVM.
> 2. It has been available under dual license - open source and commercial
> 3. Finally the reason that got me interested - It probably is one
> solution supporting widest array of host operating systems (including
> OpenSolaris based platforms)
> (http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads)
>
However Virtualbox is a beast apart! It is completely painless to
install and use
with intuitive GUI, high performance and stable, supports an array of
Guest
OSes. We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS
without any issues. In addition Virtualbox can also utilize the
processor extensions
alluded to above.
BTW it uses Qt :) I am Hoping we will soon see Qt bundled in
SXDE/Indiana.
Regards,
Moinak.
> regards
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 12:37 AM
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On Feb 13, 2008 12:46 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
> However Virtualbox is a beast apart! It is completely painless to
> install and use
> with intuitive GUI, high performance and stable, supports an array of
> Guest
> OSes. We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS
> without any issues. In addition Virtualbox can also utilize the
> processor extensions
> alluded to above.
>
Wow.. I was unable to build VirtualBox because the kbuild environment
wouldn't set up correctly on my (installed at that time) build 68.
Does it build out of the box now ? Has anyone on the list built it ?
> BTW it uses Qt :) I am Hoping we will soon see Qt bundled in
> SXDE/Indiana.
:)
-- Sriram
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 12:49 AM
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Sriram Narayanan wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2008 12:46 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
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>> However Virtualbox is a beast apart! It is completely painless to
>> install and use
>> with intuitive GUI, high performance and stable, supports an array of
>> Guest
>> OSes. We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS
>> without any issues. In addition Virtualbox can also utilize the
>> processor extensions
>> alluded to above.
>>
>>
>
> Wow.. I was unable to build VirtualBox because the kbuild environment
> wouldn't set up correctly on my (installed at that time) build 68.
>
> Does it build out of the box now ? Has anyone on the list built it ?
>
I have not built it, but you can grab the Solaris binary package from
here:
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Regards,
Moinak.
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>> BTW it uses Qt :) I am Hoping we will soon see Qt bundled in
>> SXDE/Indiana.
>>
>
> :)
>
> -- Sriram
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 1:21 AM
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On Feb 13, 2008 2:19 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
> Sriram Narayanan wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 2008 12:46 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
> >
> >> However Virtualbox is a beast apart! It is completely painless to
> >> install and use
> >> with intuitive GUI, high performance and stable, supports an array of
> >> Guest
> >> OSes. We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS
> >> without any issues. In addition Virtualbox can also utilize the
> >> processor extensions
> >> alluded to above.
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Wow.. I was unable to build VirtualBox because the kbuild environment
> > wouldn't set up correctly on my (installed at that time) build 68.
> >
> > Does it build out of the box now ? Has anyone on the list built it ?
> >
>
> I have not built it, but you can grab the Solaris binary package from
> here:
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
Sriram,
Have just started pulling down vbox via svn. I'm going to attempt to
build this on SXDE 9/07 (Still waiting for my SXDE 1/08 to arrive!).
Take a look at:
http://blogs.sun.com/JoeBonasera/entry/using_the_virtualbox_hypervisor_on
for build instructions.
-Siddharth
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> Regards,
> Moinak.
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> >
> >> BTW it uses Qt :) I am Hoping we will soon see Qt bundled in
> >> SXDE/Indiana.
> >>
> >
> > :)
> >
> > -- Sriram
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 1:34 AM
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> We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS without any issues.
I just tried Indiana Preview 2 with Virtualbox and Windows host, and the network didn't work. I might not have the Virtualbox networking configured properly though; it doesn't make as much sense to me as the Vmware networking setup.
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 2:17 AM
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On Feb 13, 2008 12:46 PM, Moinak Ghosh < Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
S h i v wrote: > It had been just a couple of days back that I downloaded Virtual Box > sources to build on OpenSolaris and below piece of news arrives. > > Sun has bought Virtual Box:
> http://blogs.sun.com/barton808/entry/sun_grabs_virtualbox> > Interesting aspects about Virtual Box: > 1. It is a native virtualization and full virtualization meaning it
> allows an unmodified guest OS to run (unlike xVM/Xen on OpenSolaris) >
in hardware assisted virtualization mode that uses the AMDV and IntelVT
processor extensions.
We have successfully run WinXP/Vista on xVM.
> 2. It has been available under dual license - open source and commercial > 3. Finally the reason that got me interested - It probably is one
> solution supporting widest array of host operating systems (including > OpenSolaris based platforms) > ( http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads)
>
install and use
with intuitive GUI, high performance and stable, supports an array of
Guest
OSes. We just tried various stuff with Virtualbox running on SXDE host OS
without any issues. In addition Virtualbox can also utilize the
processor extensions
alluded to above.
BTW it uses Qt :) I am Hoping we will soon see Qt bundled in
SXDE/Indiana.
Aah, that would be nice!
Have not seen the VirtualBox sources. Do they compile Qt statically into it? Which version of Qt is used by Virtual Box?
Regards,
Moinak.
-- Manish Chakravarty
http://manish-chaks.livejournal.com/
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 2:28 AM
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> Aah, that would be nice!
> Have not seen the VirtualBox sources. Do they compile Qt statically
> into it? Which version of Qt is used by Virtual Box?
The pre-built package delivers a dynamically built GCC build Qt 3.3.8
$ ls -ld /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 39 Feb 13 11:37
/opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so ->
/opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
BTW, I like this thing. Its a 20 MB bundle that does full virtualization
with VT/SVM support and has a nice Qt GUI :-). Was able to get Fedora
Core 8 and Nexenta CP 1.0 running in a matter of minutes !
Ananth
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 2:28 AM
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Ananth Shrinivas wrote:
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>> Aah, that would be nice!
>> Have not seen the VirtualBox sources. Do they compile Qt statically
>> into it? Which version of Qt is used by Virtual Box?
> The pre-built package delivers a dynamically built GCC build Qt 3.3.8
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> $ ls -ld /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 39 Feb 13 11:37
> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so ->
> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
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> BTW, I like this thing. Its a 20 MB bundle that does full
> virtualization with VT/SVM support and has a nice Qt GUI :-). Was able
> to get Fedora Core 8 and Nexenta CP 1.0 running in a matter of minutes !
And fast too. Mandriva 2008 DVD installed and booted in 20mins flat
without using VT extensions! We had to tweak the Xorg settings a little
to get the GUI however.
It seems that the optimised VirtualBox X11 video and mouse drivers in
the svn trunk have been updated to support Solaris as well. These drivers
allow optimised video performance and seamless mouse access without the
virtual machine capturing the mouse pointer.
In addition the SVN trunk code also allows seamless VM operation with
Solaris as the host OS. See this blog to get what I mean:
http://blogs.sun.com/tpm/entry/virtualbox
Windows Media player running in JDS desktop ...
Another blog showing Windows XP running in seamless mode on MacOSX
http://blogs.sun.com/stevewilson/entry/this_isn_t_your_dad
Regards,
Moinak.
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> Ananth
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 2:37 AM
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> $ ls -ld /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 39 Feb 13 11:37
> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so ->
> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
Aah, not Qt4 :(
> BTW, I like this thing. Its a 20 MB bundle that does full virtualization
> with VT/SVM support and has a nice Qt GUI :-). Was able to get Fedora
> Core 8 and Nexenta CP 1.0 running in a matter of minutes !
Cool, must give Virtual Box a try?
I guess it must be a tad slower than xen. How does its performance
compare with VMWare?
--Manish
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Manish Chakravarty wrote:
>> $ ls -ld /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root other 39 Feb 13 11:37
>> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so ->
>> /opt/VirtualBox/qtgcc/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
>>
> Aah, not Qt4 :(
>
>> BTW, I like this thing. Its a 20 MB bundle that does full virtualization
>> with VT/SVM support and has a nice Qt GUI :-). Was able to get Fedora
>> Core 8 and Nexenta CP 1.0 running in a matter of minutes !
>>
> Cool, must give Virtual Box a try?
> I guess it must be a tad slower than xen. How does its performance
> compare with VMWare?
>
As I mentioned before. Lot faster than Xen. Almost like
running on bare metal!
Regards,
Moinak.
> --Manish
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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Feb 13, 2008 5:40 AM
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On Feb 13, 2008 4:06 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
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> As I mentioned before. Lot faster than Xen. Almost like
> running on bare metal!
>
Hyperbole !? But many people have reported the better performance that
it offers as compared to many other virtualization solutions.
BTW, comparison with VMware and parallels is available at
http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VBox_vs_Others
-Shiv
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Re: Virtual Box - next hot virtualization solution (?)
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S h i v wrote:
> On Feb 13, 2008 4:06 PM, Moinak Ghosh <Moinak dot Ghosh at sun dot com> wrote:
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>> As I mentioned before. Lot faster than Xen. Almost like
>> running on bare metal!
>>
>>
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> Hyperbole !? But many people have reported the better performance that
> it offers as compared to many other virtualization solutions.
> BTW, comparison with VMware and parallels is available at
> http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/VBox_vs_Others
>
I am not exaggerating. I will have VBox running on a ThinkPad at this
BOSUG meet.
Regards,
Moinak.
> -Shiv
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