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Test image for 2008.05
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As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
installation testing; do not pull new packages from
pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
with checksums
$ md5sum 0805rc2a.iso
910095cddb27f3b1caecb635d92b261c 0805rc2a.iso
$ sha1sum 0805rc2a.iso
a5a9243bf54f87f2bb375529b057e8754009af93 0805rc2a.iso
(Shameless reuse of the previous RC message follows.)
If you'd like submit issues, please feel free to use
defect.opensolaris.org, under the distribution/opensolaris product,
or send them to this alias. You may find a template like
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2008.05 installation test report
LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
Install Media: Physical CD
System Manufacturer:
System Model #:
Installed on:
Issues encountered:
System graphics & networking information:
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useful in writing any kind of report. All feedback is appreciated.
Once the final image for 2008.05 is ready, we'll make it available
via HTTP and BitTorrent (and gratefully accept offers to mirror).
More complete instructions and release notes will be published
alongside that release.
Thanks
Stephen
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Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 24, 2008 10:18 PM
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* Stephen Hahn <sch at sun dot com> [2008-04-24 23:18]:
> Unlike DP1 or DP2, we are going to update the packages on
> pkg.opensolaris.org. This update will take place in the next 24
> hours--a specific message announcing that update will follow.
> (Please focus initially on LiveCD and installation testing; do not
> pull new packages from pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that
> message.)
The packages on pkg.opensolaris.org have now been updated. If you've
got a system running the release candidate, then check your
authorities are correctly configured via
$ pkg authority
AUTHORITY URL
opensolaris.org (preferred) http://pkg.opensolaris.org:80/
(If you are within Sun's wide-area network, you may prefer to use
# pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://ipkg.sfbay/ opensolaris.org
for potentially faster access.)
Please issue
$ pfexec pkg refresh
to update your catalog--then explore. Please try the packagemanager
graphical utility, found under the System / Administration menu. If
you prefer a command-line approach, you may find the summary view from
pkg(1) useful:
$ pkg list -s | ...
NAME (AUTHORITY) SUMMARY
SUNW1394 Sun IEEE1394 Framework
SUNWDTraceToolkit SUNWDTraceToolkit
SUNWPython The Python interpreter, libraries and utilities
SUNWPython-extra Supplemental Python libraries and utilities
SUNWTcl Tcl - Tool Command Language
SUNWTiff libtiff - library for reading and writing TIFF
SUNWTk Tk - TCL GUI Toolkit
SUNWa2ps a2ps - GNU Any to PostScript filter (user)
SUNWaac Adaptec AdvanceRaid Controller SCSI HBA Driver
SUNWacc System Accounting, (Usr)
...
Additional interesting packages you may wish to test: clustertools,
netbeans, sunstudioexpress, as well as various bundles like gcc-dev,
amp-dev, and hpc-dev. OpenOffice.org has been updated to the 2.4
release.
Please report problems via defect.opensolaris.org, or to this alias.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 24, 2008 11:22 PM
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> The packages on pkg.opensolaris.org have now been
> updated. If you've
> got a system running the release candidate, then
> check your
> authorities are correctly configured via
> $ pkg authority
> AUTHORITY URL
> opensolaris.org (preferred)
> http://pkg.opensolaris.org:80/
got the following error message:
pkg: unknown subcommand 'authority'
> Please issue
> pfexec pkg refresh
> to update your catalog--then explore. Please try
> the packagemanager
> graphical utility, found under the System /
> Administration menu.
There is no packagemanager under the System/Administration menu.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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I am posting this message from the 0805rc2a.iso LiveCD. The fonts in FF@ are much better now. Thanks a whole bunch!
There were a couple of either warnings or error messages during the initial boot (about certain port that was not available); I forgot to write them down. Will begin to install to a HD in a few minutes.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 1:40 AM
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> > The packages on pkg.opensolaris.org have now been
> > updated. If you've
> > got a system running the release candidate, then
> > check your
> > authorities are correctly configured via
> > $ pkg authority
> > AUTHORITY URL
> > opensolaris.org (preferred)
> > http://pkg.opensolaris.org:80/
>
> got the following error message:
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> pkg: unknown subcommand 'authority'
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>
> > Please issue
> > pfexec pkg refresh
> > to update your catalog--then explore. Please try
> > the packagemanager
> > graphical utility, found under the System /
> > Administration menu.
>
> There is no packagemanager under the
> System/Administration menu.
Well, I thought I was able to update from DP2. I could be more wrong. : -)
After installation of rc2a, I am able to play with the packagemanager as described in the original message.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 9:14 AM
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> Well, I thought I was able to update from DP2. I could be more wrong. : -)
Yes, you can upgrade from Preview 2 but it requires a bit of manual
intervention. We'll be posting upgrade instructions soon once they're
finalized.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 2:55 AM
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Stephen -
I did a clean install of 2008.05 rc2a with no problems. Following your instructions, I wanted to see if my Companion CD repository would work with the package manager. I did
pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.sunfreeware.com:9000 sunfreeware.com
pfexec pkg refresh
both as root. Then I started the package manager program and the above repository was found and the packages appear under the All category correctly. I tried some individual package installs and they do install in /opt/sfw as they should and dependencies are found.
I did note two problems which I am not sure are with my repository or the package manager. If, for example, I try to do an install of the IPSFWcddk - which has a number of dependencies - the download eventually freezes. 26828 KB is supposed to be downloaded, but it stops at 7892 and stays there. I also tried to select all the packages and install them all at once, but that froze also.
If this is a problem with my repository or packages, I would like to fix them. If not, maybe this is some other issue.
Very nice tool though. Looking forward to using it and building packages for it.
Steve C.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 4:19 AM
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Stephen -
One more comment on the package manager tool ease of use.
If I bring the tool up and look at the opensolaris.org repository and click on All, I see all of the packages as I should. Then if I do a search for say python, it takes a bit, but it then lists those packages related to python.
Now in order to do anything else, I have go into the search box and by hand and remove the word python before I can do anything else. Otherwise, nothing else shows up in the main window unless it is related to python. Could there be some easier way get back to general, non-python related search, usage after the search is done? The search behavior in Thunderbird might be an example of a reasonable way to do this.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 7:56 AM
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On 25 Apr 2008, at 12:19, Steve Christensen wrote:
> Now in order to do anything else, I have go into the search box and
> by hand and remove the word python before I can do anything else.
> Otherwise, nothing else shows up in the main window unless it is
> related to python. Could there be some easier way get back to
> general, non-python related search, usage after the search is done?
> The search behavior in Thunderbird might be an example of a
> reasonable way to do this.
You might consider filing a bug against pkg/gui at http://defect.opensolaris.org
. (I'd hazard a guess it's already on the TODO list, though.)
Cheeri,
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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Apr 25, 2008 10:00 AM
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The flash plugin is missing (but java plugin is there--thanks). Any reason?
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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> You might consider filing a bug against pkg/gui at
> http://defect.opensolaris.org
> . (I'd hazard a guess it's already on the TODO list,
> though.)
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> Cheeri,
> Calum.
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Oops, the flash player/plugin is missing, but this is already reported in the Bugzilla.
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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> Please try the packagemanager graphical utility, found under the System / Administration menu.
Does this support upgrading to new versions of the OS, like the ubuntu updater does for instance?
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Re: Updated packages available for 2008.05
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On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 5:03 AM, MC <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
> > Please try the packagemanager graphical utility, found under the System / Administration menu.
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> Does this support upgrading to new versions of the OS, like the ubuntu updater does for instance?
I don't think that's in the GUI yet, but it is planned.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Stephen Hahn <sch at sun dot com> wrote:
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> As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
> out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
> are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
> will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
> that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
> installation testing; do not pull new packages from
> pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
>
> Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
>
> with checksums
>
> $ md5sum 0805rc2a.iso
> 910095cddb27f3b1caecb635d92b261c 0805rc2a.iso
> $ sha1sum 0805rc2a.iso
> a5a9243bf54f87f2bb375529b057e8754009af93 0805rc2a.iso
>
> (Shameless reuse of the previous RC message follows.)
>
> If you'd like submit issues, please feel free to use
> defect.opensolaris.org, under the distribution/opensolaris product,
> or send them to this alias. You may find a template like
>
> ----
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> 2008.05 installation test report
>
> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
> Install Media: Physical CD
> System Manufacturer:
> System Model #:
> Installed on:
> Issues encountered:
>
> System graphics & networking information:
>
> ----
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> useful in writing any kind of report. All feedback is appreciated.
>
> Once the final image for 2008.05 is ready, we'll make it available
> via HTTP and BitTorrent (and gratefully accept offers to mirror).
> More complete instructions and release notes will be published
> alongside that release.
>
> Thanks
> Stephen
Great news, any unofficial release notes about this image?
something like which revision of solaris kernel it's based?
Thanks,
-Aubrey
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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* Aubrey Li <aubreylee at gmail dot com> [2008-04-25 05:48]:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Stephen Hahn <sch at sun dot com> wrote:
> Great news, any unofficial release notes about this image?
> something like which revision of solaris kernel it's based?
The image includes the build 86 kernel (and most components are from
the consolidations' respective Build 86 deliveries). We're using
defect.opensolaris.org for bug tracking; not all of these issues have
been made into release notes yet as we're still looking for test
feedback. (Exciting!?)
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> Great news, any unofficial release notes about this image?
> something like which revision of solaris kernel it's based?
It's based on build 86 although it includes the X components from build
87 and some newer components such as the latest Firefox 2.0.0.14
release.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Aubrey Li wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Stephen Hahn <sch at sun dot com> wrote:
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>> As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
>> out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
>> are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
>> will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
>> that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
>> installation testing; do not pull new packages from
>> pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
>>
>> Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
>>
>> http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
>>
>> with checksums
>>
>> $ md5sum 0805rc2a.iso
>> 910095cddb27f3b1caecb635d92b261c 0805rc2a.iso
>> $ sha1sum 0805rc2a.iso
>> a5a9243bf54f87f2bb375529b057e8754009af93 0805rc2a.iso
>>
>> (Shameless reuse of the previous RC message follows.)
>>
>> If you'd like submit issues, please feel free to use
>> defect.opensolaris.org, under the distribution/opensolaris product,
>> or send them to this alias. You may find a template like
>>
>> ----
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>> 2008.05 installation test report
>>
>> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
>> Install Media: Physical CD
>> System Manufacturer:
>> System Model #:
>> Installed on:
>> Issues encountered:
>>
>> System graphics & networking information:
>>
>> ----
>>
>> useful in writing any kind of report. All feedback is appreciated.
>>
>> Once the final image for 2008.05 is ready, we'll make it available
>> via HTTP and BitTorrent (and gratefully accept offers to mirror).
>> More complete instructions and release notes will be published
>> alongside that release.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Stephen
>>
>
> Great news, any unofficial release notes about this image?
> something like which revision of solaris kernel it's based?
>
build 86....
- Bart
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is skyrocketing.
I imagine this is due to LZMA... But is LZMA worth it ? There is a world of difference in terms of speed in contrast to DP1 & DP2 and I would think that some people will be put-off by this initial experience (how would they know that after installing on a solid media it's much faster ?).
This also drastically reduces the usefulness of the livecd for recovery purposes :(
Other than that (which is in my opinion a major issue for a broader OpenSolaris adoption) so far it looks quite good, great job!
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is
> skyrocketing.
It is definitely noticeable. Are there improvements to the LZMA algorithm expected? The related bug in Bugzilla suggested something like this.
Also, you guys should consider going with a lighter and simpler default background. Pictures with rendered lens flares are kind of cheesy and clichee IMO.
Otherwise, it seems to work quite well.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> It is definitely noticeable. Are there improvements to the LZMA algorithm expected? The related bug in Bugzilla suggested something like this.
As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that
Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA
version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just
from an installation perspective?
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that
> Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA
> version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just
> from an installation perspective?
It wasn't so long ago when I had to reinstall DP2, on the old machine,
which felt like it booted faster from the LiveCD than 2008.05 on this new
machine. But if it's not the LZMA ISO, then it's just a placebo.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Mario Goebbels (Webmail) wrote:
>> As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that
>> Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA
>> version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just
>> from an installation perspective?
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> It wasn't so long ago when I had to reinstall DP2, on the old machine,
> which felt like it booted faster from the LiveCD than 2008.05 on this new
> machine. But if it's not the LZMA ISO, then it's just a placebo.
I've also experienced a much slower experience over all, but I can't point at
what may be causing it [1]. I thought it might be gam_server and the file
notifications, and while that does help to some extent, I don't think it's the
root cause.
Any insight you can provide into what you're experiencing would be helpful to debug.
Glynn
[1] Unfortunately during the cpio steps, my machine seems to go into a loop
and not recover
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Glynn Foster <Glynn dot Foster at sun dot com> wrote:
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> Mario Goebbels (Webmail) wrote:
> >> As I mentioned in my earlier reply, based on the MD5 checksum that
> >> Stephen quoted, the image on the torrent should be the non-LZMA
> >> version. Are you seeing a noticable degradation in all areas or just
> >> from an installation perspective?
> >
> > It wasn't so long ago when I had to reinstall DP2, on the old machine,
> > which felt like it booted faster from the LiveCD than 2008.05 on this new
> > machine. But if it's not the LZMA ISO, then it's just a placebo.
>
> I've also experienced a much slower experience over all, but I can't point at
> what may be causing it [1]. I thought it might be gam_server and the file
> notifications, and while that does help to some extent, I don't think it's the
> root cause.
>
> Any insight you can provide into what you're experiencing would be helpful to debug.
I have logged the following bug detailing my own timings for booting
the Live CD for DP1, DP2, and 2008.05 rc2a:
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1640
In short, rc2a is barely slower than DP2 for me. However, it's
noticeably slower than DP1.
This is for LiveCD performance only. It really isn't practical for me
to measure installed performance.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> The LiveCD performance is abyssmal. The cpu usage is skyrocketing.
>
> I imagine this is due to LZMA... But is LZMA worth it ? There is a world of difference in terms of speed in contrast to DP1 & DP2 and I would think that some people will be put-off by this initial experience (how would they know that after installing on a solid media it's much faster ?).
I believe the image that Stephen posted through the torrent was our
"smaller" image (that does not include all the languages) which does
not use LZMA so I'm a little concerned. Are you seeing a big
degradation all around or just from the the installation perspective?
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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"You've come a long way baby.."
I just had to say that the new test image is looking great. I love the layout and everything seems to work so far (been using it for two hours..). When the final release comes out this will definitely replace my Gentoo system. Great job and thanks for all the hard work!
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Ok, I appear to be done toying around. I've installed it in VirtualBox, worked fine. Also have gotten my new hardware today* and had to reinstall, so put RC2a on it, worked fine, too.
There was an install bug listed in the blocker bug, where the installer could be help up while finding disks while the CD-ROM does weird activity. Somehow it seems gone from Bugzilla, but I had something like this happen on real hardware. It didn't take too long to continue, though.
Other than that, I've just two questions:
- Starting at 70% install progress, the CD-ROM drive started performing a break dance (i.e. the head moving back and forth _a lot_). What's happening at 70% and beyond?
- During the installation, applications became a little unresponsive. Redrawing lagged when moving windows, as well as Pidgin, which was running, lagged on keyboard input here and there. The new machine is a quad core. Should this happen?
The operating system itself appears to be working fine.
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(*: Can I use OpenSolaris 2008.05 to validate and submit hardware compatibility info to Sun?)
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> (*: Can I use OpenSolaris 2008.05 to validate and submit hardware compatibility info to Sun?)
The new Device Detection Utility which appears on the desktop on the
live CD (and is otherwise available from the System/Administration
menu) can be used to submit such information.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Mario Goebbels wrote:
> Ok, I appear to be done toying around. I've installed it in VirtualBox, worked fine. Also have gotten my new hardware today* and had to reinstall, so put RC2a on it, worked fine, too.
>
> There was an install bug listed in the blocker bug, where the installer could be help up while finding disks while the CD-ROM does weird activity. Somehow it seems gone from Bugzilla, but I had something like this happen on real hardware. It didn't take too long to continue, though.
>
1123, closed because it wasn't reproduced. Re-open if you have new info.
> Other than that, I've just two questions:
>
> - Starting at 70% install progress, the CD-ROM drive started performing a break dance (i.e. the head moving back and forth _a lot_). What's happening at 70% and beyond?
It's just cpio's during the "transferring" phase.
> - During the installation, applications became a little unresponsive. Redrawing lagged when moving windows, as well as Pidgin, which was running, lagged on keyboard input here and there. The new machine is a quad core. Should this happen?
>
Well, the installer will keep the kernel pretty busy decompressing
stuff, so expect it to be less than tremendous responsiveness during
that process. How much memory do you have?
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Also, it took a very long time to log out and re-log in (at least 3~4 minutes). I thought this was an aberration in DP2, but this problem is carried over to rc2.
Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It disappeared?! Feels very strange.
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> Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It
> disappeared?! Feels very strange.
Oops, it should be the "Desktop background" that seems to have disappeared.
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>> Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It
>> disappeared?! Feels very strange.
>
> Oops, it should be the "Desktop background" that seems to have disappeared.
You mean after an upgrade? Yes, go to the appearance preferences and
pick a new one.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> >> Furthermore, what happened to the "Desktop"? It
> >> disappeared?! Feels very strange.
> >
> > Oops, it should be the "Desktop background" that
> seems to have disappeared.
>
> You mean after an upgrade? Yes, go to the appearance
> preferences and
> pick a new one.
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> iscuss
Actually, it looks like the GNOME desktop had been corrupted (in an installed system). I posted a more detailed description of the problem at the opensolaris.com forum:
> I have experienced several instability problems in 2008.05RC2a, e.g.:
> 1. Losing desktop icons and/or desktop background;
> 2. It took a long time to log out (at least a couple of minutes) as well as to re-log in;
> 3. After the GNOME screen showed up, I also had to wait a while (~ one minute) b/f I was able to do anything.
These problems were observed mainly in the installed system; the LiveCD was OK, although the time it takes a GNOME session to log out and re-log in could be faster even in LiveCD.
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Perhaps we should move to the opensolaris.com forum to help doing the debugging:
http://forums.opensolaris.com/index.jspa
(The new forum seems to be better designed and more functional than the 'ol Jiva forum, IMHO.)
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> Perhaps we should move to the opensolaris.com forum to help doing the debugging:
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> http://forums.opensolaris.com/index.jspa
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> (The new forum seems to be better designed and more functional than the 'ol Jiva forum, IMHO.)
That site is still in beta test, so I'd strongly discourage using it for now. It
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> most of the
> threads will be nuked
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> Glynn
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That sounds even more intoxicating/appealing! :-)
But anyway, there seem to be quite serious problems when I tried to log out from an installed system.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Stephen Hahn wrote:
> As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
> out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
> are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
> will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
> that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
> installation testing; do not pull new packages from
> pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
>
> Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
>
>
Does anyone have a non-torrent URL for this ISO?
I'm interested in using this at work, and my employer blocks torrents at
the firewall.
-Kyle
> with checksums
>
> $ md5sum 0805rc2a.iso
> 910095cddb27f3b1caecb635d92b261c 0805rc2a.iso
> $ sha1sum 0805rc2a.iso
> a5a9243bf54f87f2bb375529b057e8754009af93 0805rc2a.iso
>
> (Shameless reuse of the previous RC message follows.)
>
> If you'd like submit issues, please feel free to use
> defect.opensolaris.org, under the distribution/opensolaris product,
> or send them to this alias. You may find a template like
>
> ----
>
> 2008.05 installation test report
>
> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
> Install Media: Physical CD
> System Manufacturer:
> System Model #:
> Installed on:
> Issues encountered:
>
> System graphics & networking information:
>
> ----
>
> useful in writing any kind of report. All feedback is appreciated.
>
> Once the final image for 2008.05 is ready, we'll make it available
> via HTTP and BitTorrent (and gratefully accept offers to mirror).
> More complete instructions and release notes will be published
> alongside that release.
>
> Thanks
> Stephen
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Kyle McDonald skrev:
> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>
>> As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
>> out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
>> are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
>> will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
>> that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
>> installation testing; do not pull new packages from
>> pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
>>
>> Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
>>
>> http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
>>
>>
>>
> Does anyone have a non-torrent URL for this ISO?
>
> I'm interested in using this at work, and my employer blocks torrents at
> the firewall.
>
> -Kyle
>
Hi
I've made the image available through http/ftp via the ftp-mirror at
The Computer Society at Lund University (www.df.lth.se)
Urls:
ftp://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/indiana/test-image-2008.05/0805rc2a.iso
http://ftp.df.lth.se/indiana/test-image-2008.05/0805rc2a.iso
Enjoy!
//Tobias
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Stephen Hahn wrote:
> As with Developer Preview 2, we'd like to offer a release candidate
> out so that the teams can get some feedback. Unlike DP1 or DP2, we
> are going to update the packages on pkg.opensolaris.org. This update
> will take place in the next 24 hours--a specific message announcing
> that update will follow. (Please focus initially on LiveCD and
> installation testing; do not pull new packages from
> pkg.opensolaris.org until you see that message.)
>
> Accordingly, a testing ISO image is available via BitTorrent through
>
> http://dlc.sun.com/torrents/info/0805rc2a.iso.torrent
>
> with checksums
>
> $ md5sum 0805rc2a.iso
> 910095cddb27f3b1caecb635d92b261c 0805rc2a.iso
> $ sha1sum 0805rc2a.iso
> a5a9243bf54f87f2bb375529b057e8754009af93 0805rc2a.iso
What are the differences between RC2 and RC2a? I would like to determine
whether to re-download and re-install.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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There is something we should be aware of:
This is if you you have a Panasonic Toughbook, or any laptop/notebook, using Intel GMA x3100 or ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 chips.
If you are having issues with using the ATI/Intel video drivers in the test image, make sure you use Mesa 6.5.3 for your research testing.
Either request this for the final release of the image or as an update package. Mesa 6.5.3 should be the minimum version for the OpenGL software renderer library for those of us researching OpenGL 2.1+ development projects.
I prefer Mesa 7.0.3 - which should be in the update pkg repository and works better for Intel driver 2.3.0 and ATI driver 6.8.0 testing projects.
~ Ken Mays
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> There is something we should be aware of:
>
> This is if you you have a Panasonic Toughbook, or any
> laptop/notebook, using Intel GMA x3100 or ATI
> Mobility Radeon X2300 chips.
>
> If you are having issues with using the ATI/Intel
> video drivers in the test image, make sure you use
> Mesa 6.5.3 for your research testing.
>
> Either request this for the final release of the
> image or as an update package. Mesa 6.5.3 should be
> the minimum version for the OpenGL software renderer
> library for those of us researching OpenGL 2.1+
> development projects.
>
> I prefer Mesa 7.0.3 - which should be in the update
> pkg repository and works better for Intel driver
> 2.3.0 and ATI driver 6.8.0 testing projects.
>
> ~ Ken Mays
We have both chips in our lab. Before I test RC2 on them, I want to know how do I change the video driver to Mesa? It's very difficult to install RC2 on these laptops, as Indiana does not dual-boot with other Solaris slices. Plus both S10u5 and SXCE87 are working so well, I am not going to erase them even for testing purposes.
We do have problem with an ATI-based desktop machine, the video suspend does not seem to work. RC2 works fine with NVidia chips.
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not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>> There is something we should be aware of:
>>
>> This is if you you have a Panasonic Toughbook, or any
>> laptop/notebook, using Intel GMA x3100 or ATI
>> Mobility Radeon X2300 chips.
>>
>> If you are having issues with using the ATI/Intel
>> video drivers in the test image, make sure you use
>> Mesa 6.5.3 for your research testing.
>>
>> Either request this for the final release of the
>> image or as an update package. Mesa 6.5.3 should be
>> the minimum version for the OpenGL software renderer
>> library for those of us researching OpenGL 2.1+
>> development projects.
>>
>> I prefer Mesa 7.0.3 - which should be in the update
>> pkg repository and works better for Intel driver
>> 2.3.0 and ATI driver 6.8.0 testing projects.
>>
>> ~ Ken Mays
>
> We have both chips in our lab. Before I test RC2 on them, I want to know how do I change the video driver to Mesa? It's very difficult to install RC2 on these laptops, as Indiana does not dual-boot with other Solaris slices. Plus both S10u5 and SXCE87 are working so well, I am not going to erase them even for testing purposes.
This has been a restriction for me as well, and I have had to constantly
shuffle disks in and out of my laptop. I filed [RFE] 1223 as a result
and you may want to add yourself to it. It is planned for a future
release and with enough interest and need, maybe it can make into the
next one.
Steffen
> We do have problem with an ATI-based desktop machine, the video suspend does not seem to work. RC2 works fine with NVidia chips.
> --
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> This has been a restriction for me as well, and I
> have had to constantly
> shuffle disks in and out of my laptop. I filed [RFE]
> 1223 as a result
> and you may want to add yourself to it. It is planned
> for a future
> release and with enough interest and need, maybe it
> can make into the
> next one.
>
> Steffen
Thanks for taking the action. (How do I second an RFE?)
As it stands now, Indiana appears to be the only OS in the entire universe (at least the part that I am interested in) that does not multi-boot with (other) Solaris. This problem actually is more serious than it sounds as each Solaris partition of ours actually consists of at least three Solaris slices (S10, SXCE, SXDE), their respectively associated home directories, and a Blastwave slice. Re-installing/restoring them is a nightmare that I am not going to even think about.
However, I do understand that the main emphasis of Indiana right now is to come out with a LiveCD that will showcase the prowess of Solaris (& Sun) in the x86 world. I guess we should wait. :-(
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>> This has been a restriction for me as well, and I have had to
>> constantly shuffle disks in and out of my laptop. I filed [RFE]
>> 1223 as a result and you may want to add yourself to it. It is
>> planned for a future release and with enough interest and need,
>> maybe it can make into the next one.
>>
>> Steffen
>
> Thanks for taking the action. (How do I second an RFE?)
>
> As it stands now, Indiana appears to be the only OS in the entire
> universe (at least the part that I am interested in) that does not
> multi-boot with (other) Solaris. This problem actually is more
> serious than it sounds as each Solaris partition of ours actually
> consists of at least three Solaris slices (S10, SXCE, SXDE), their
> respectively associated home directories, and a Blastwave slice.
> Re-installing/restoring them is a nightmare that I am not going to
> even think about.
>
> However, I do understand that the main emphasis of Indiana right now
> is to come out with a LiveCD that will showcase the prowess of
> Solaris (& Sun) in the x86 world. I guess we should wait. :-( --
>
Right, it's aimed more at people who aren't already running some version
of OpenSolaris.
That said, it is possible to get Indiana into a partition with another
version of Solaris, as I've helped an internal person who I anticipate
will be writing it up on his blog any day now. The basic idea is to
install to some other disk, use zfs send/recv to get it into a pool in
the shared partition, then update the GRUB menu manually. I don't
recall offhand if there were any other details required, but that's the
basic outline.
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the default user and password be changed to something other than jack and jack. It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds to use for inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, MC <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
> While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the default user and password be changed to something other than jack and jack. It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds to use for inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
>
Now, let's not be hasty :-)
We've got to have a little fun here and there.
If it was all professional, buttoned-up and the like, we might offend
some folks ;-)
Cheers,
--
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Shawn Walker wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, MC <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
>
>> While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the default user and password be changed to something other than jack and jack. It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds to use for inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
>>
>>
>
> Now, let's not be hasty :-)
>
> We've got to have a little fun here and there.
>
> If it was all professional, buttoned-up and the like, we might offend
> some folks ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
So you'd be against making it James, then?
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Bart Smaalders <bart dot smaalders at sun dot com> wrote:
> Shawn Walker wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, MC <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the
> default user and password be changed to something other than jack and jack.
> It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds to use for
> inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Now, let's not be hasty :-)
> >
> > We've got to have a little fun here and there.
> >
> > If it was all professional, buttoned-up and the like, we might offend
> > some folks ;-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
>
> So you'd be against making it James, then?
My attempt at tongue-in-check humour seems to have failed.
I personally have no problem jack, james, or whatever. I like what we
have personally.
Personally, I think too overbearing or professional of an approach is
likely to turn some folks away just based on perception.
Cheers,
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Shawn Walker wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Bart Smaalders <bart dot smaalders at sun dot com> wrote:
>
>> Shawn Walker wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, MC <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the
>>>>
>> default user and password be changed to something other than jack and jack.
>> It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds to use for
>> inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Now, let's not be hasty :-)
>>>
>>> We've got to have a little fun here and there.
>>>
>>> If it was all professional, buttoned-up and the like, we might offend
>>> some folks ;-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> So you'd be against making it James, then?
>>
>
> My attempt at tongue-in-check humour seems to have failed.
>
> I personally have no problem jack, james, or whatever. I like what we
> have personally.
>
> Personally, I think too overbearing or professional of an approach is
> likely to turn some folks away just based on perception.
>
> Cheers,
>
whoops, my humor failed as well :-).
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Actually, "jack" can be spun to mean the acronym for "Japanese-American-Chinese-Korean"; it emphasizes the cross-cultural, multi-lingual nature of Indiana.
Of course, the same can be said for most mainstream Linux distros. But it will be too much of a stretch of imagination to ask an American executive to bring a Linux laptop when s/he travels overseas. Even more difficult for CJK executives. This is where Sun's name (& the Solaris lineage) can serve as a great catalyst. At least so we hope. :-)
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Bart Smaalders
> <bart dot smaalders at sun dot com> wrote:
> > Shawn Walker wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:55 PM, MC
> <rac at eastlink dot ca> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly
> recommend that the
> > default user and password be changed to something
> other than jack and jack.
> > It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample
> linux livecds to use for
> > inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Now, let's not be hasty :-)
> > >
> > > We've got to have a little fun here and there.
> > >
> > > If it was all professional, buttoned-up and the
> like, we might offend
> > > some folks ;-)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > >
> >
> > So you'd be against making it James, then?
>
> My attempt at tongue-in-check humour seems to have
> failed.
>
> I personally have no problem jack, james, or
> whatever. I like what we
> have personally.
>
> Personally, I think too overbearing or professional
> of an approach is
> likely to turn some folks away just based on
> perception.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Shawn Walker
>
> "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is
> even more so." -
> Robert Orben
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 18:55 -0700, MC wrote:
> While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the
> default user and password be changed to something other than jack and
> jack. It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds
> to use for inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined. --
+1
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> On Sat, 2008-04-26 at 18:55 -0700, MC wrote:
> > While I'm thinking about it, I want to strongly recommend that the
> > default user and password be changed to something other than jack and
> > jack. It stunningly unprofessional :) There are ample linux livecds
> > to use for inspiration if an alternative cannot be imagined. --
>
> +1
+1 as well, something as simple as "opensolaris/opensolaris" is way better than "jack/jack" and more obvious as well...
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> >> This has been a restriction for me as well, and I
> have had to
> >> constantly shuffle disks in and out of my laptop.
> I filed [RFE]
> >> 1223 as a result and you may want to add yourself
> to it. It is
> >> planned for a future release and with enough
> interest and need,
> >> maybe it can make into the next one.
> >>
> >> Steffen
> >
> > Thanks for taking the action. (How do I second an
> RFE?)
> >
> > As it stands now, Indiana appears to be the only OS
> in the entire
> > universe (at least the part that I am interested
> in) that does not
> > multi-boot with (other) Solaris. This problem
> actually is more
> > serious than it sounds as each Solaris partition of
> ours actually
> > consists of at least three Solaris slices (S10,
> SXCE, SXDE), their
> > respectively associated home directories, and a
> Blastwave slice.
> > Re-installing/restoring them is a nightmare that I
> am not going to
> > even think about.
> >
> > However, I do understand that the main emphasis of
> Indiana right now
> > is to come out with a LiveCD that will showcase the
> prowess of
> > Solaris (& Sun) in the x86 world. I guess we
> should wait. :-( --
> >
>
> Right, it's aimed more at people who aren't already
> running some version
> of OpenSolaris.
>
> That said, it is possible to get Indiana into a
> partition with another
> version of Solaris, as I've helped an internal person
> who I anticipate
> will be writing it up on his blog any day now. The
> basic idea is to
> install to some other disk, use zfs send/recv to get
> it into a pool in
> the shared partition, then update the GRUB menu
> manually. I don't
> recall offhand if there were any other details
> required, but that's the
> basic outline.
>
> Dave
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Yasuhiro Fujitsuki has a simple instruction on how to dual-boot b/t Indiana and other Solaris partition:
http://blogs.sun.com/thaniwa/entry/ja_dualboot_of_nevada_indiana
The trick is to change the partition number of the existing Solaris partition to something else. Then, after the installation of Indiana, change it back to 0xbf.
But this still does not allow you to dual-boot Solaris with Indiana. You need to add the "makeactive" step in the chainloader statement. E.g., if you are booting from Solaris Express, then your chainloader to Indiana will look like this:
/boot/gurb/menu.lst
. . .
title Switch to OpenSolaris(Indiana) Grub Menu
root (hd0,3)
makeactive
chainloader +1
. . .
And if you are booting from Indiana, then your chainloader will look like this:
/rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst
. . .
title Switch to Solaris Express(Nevada) Grub Menu
root (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1
. . .
Thanks a whole lot for taking time to write this blog.
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Re: not an answer: Re: Test image for 2008.05
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> This has been a restriction for me as well, and I
> have had to constantly
> shuffle disks in and out of my laptop. I filed [RFE]
> 1223 as a result
> and you may want to add yourself to it. It is planned
> for a future
> release and with enough interest and need, maybe it
> can make into the
> next one.
>
> Steffen
>
But you're right. The only way right now we can do Indiana is to swap out our Solaris HD.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> Before I test RC2 on them, I want to know how do I change the video driver to Mesa?
I think you're confusing "Mesa" (an open source implementation of
OpenGL) and "vesa" (the video driver that uses the standard
interfaces defined by the Video Electronics Standards Association
for all video cards, which manufacturers adhere to so their cards
work in BIOS and early boot modes before their custom drivers can
attach, or in general use before their custom driver is installed).
To use the vesa driver, see Stephen's blog from DP1:
http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/indiana_vesa_if_you_need
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
>> Before I test RC2 on them, I want to know how do I change the video driver to Mesa?
>
> I think you're confusing "Mesa" (an open source implementation of
> OpenGL) and "vesa" (the video driver that uses the standard
> interfaces defined by the Video Electronics Standards Association
> for all video cards, which manufacturers adhere to so their cards
> work in BIOS and early boot modes before their custom drivers can
> attach, or in general use before their custom driver is installed).
>
> To use the vesa driver, see Stephen's blog from DP1:
> http://blogs.sun.com/sch/entry/indiana_vesa_if_you_need
>
Here's an easier way David Comay figured out yesterday:
1. From the GRUB menu, select the Text Console.
2. Login as user "jack", password "jack".
3. Execute the following commands
jack@opensolaris:~$ pfexec Xorg -configure
jack@opensolaris:~$ pfexec <your editor> xorg.conf.new
<Change the Driver field from "intel" to "vesa">
jack@opensolaris:~$ pfexec mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
jack@opensolaris:~$ svcadm enable gdm
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Ken Mays wrote:
> Either request this for the final release of the image
It is far too late to switch now to new untested releases of
packages like Mesa for the final release.
> I prefer Mesa 7.0.3 - which should be in the update pkg repository and works better for Intel driver 2.3.0 and ATI driver 6.8.0 testing projects.
As has been repeatedly stated, this is not possible at this time,
and is not likely to happen for a few months until we are ready
to move to Xorg 1.5 + Mesa 7.0.x at the same time, once the X.Org
community releases them.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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>Alan Coopersmith forespoke:
>As has been repeatedly stated, this is not possible at this time,
>and is not likely to happen for a few months until we are ready
>to move to Xorg 1.5 + Mesa 7.0.x at the same time, once the X.Org
>community releases them.
I can await Xorg 7.4 integration with the included Mesa release...
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
Posted:
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SDM (a Java-based Sun's Download Manager) doesn't seem to work in RC2 (on both installed system and LiveCD). Can someone verify this? Thanks.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Hahn <sch at sun dot com> wrote:
> useful in writing any kind of report. All feedback is appreciated.
In general, this release is noticeably better.
Some key differences for me:
* installer is less "flaky"; there were several bizarre failures that
others filed bugs on that I didn't hit this time (and I did last
time).
* Less errors in dmesg output
* My Belkin Atheros-based PCMCIA card worked "out of the box" on my
Dell Inspiron 5150. I was prompted for a wireless network, selected my
own, entered the wpa key, and it just worked. Wow. I've had to fiddle
with it everytime I booted under all previous releases / incarnations
of OpenSolaris.
* Icons and theme are greatly improved
* The improvements to pkg search, list, etc. are extremely helpful.
* The graphical package manager is a great start.
* Being able to install openoffice, etc. right away was nice.
* Install process only took 11 minutes on my Intel Core 2 Duo E6600!
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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>Shawn said:
>* Install process only took 11 minutes on my Intel Core 2 Duo E6600!
If that is a complete "Install to HD" installation from Live-CD while getting a fully functional login prompt afterwards - then that is a very impressive install time!
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:39 AM, Ken Mays <maybird1776 at yahoo dot com> wrote:
> >Shawn said:
> >* Install process only took 11 minutes on my Intel Core 2 Duo E6600!
>
> If that is a complete "Install to HD" installation from Live-CD while getting a fully functional login prompt afterwards - then that is a very impressive install time!
It is. I'm only counting the time from when it begin copying to the
time it completed. Even on my laptop it only took 15 minutes.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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My updated feedback: overall OpenSolaris 2008.05 RC2 is a very good distro release and far better than DP1 and DP2. As many experienced GNOME users may want to play with gDesklets, I do favor the slick installation, OpenSolaris logo, and theme. Very simple and clean in appearance.
The GNOME apps all executed properly and even the included 'Really Slick Screensavers' worked as well as the OpenGL xscreensaver. Awesome. Sun's X11 engineering took the time to make sure everything was working - even a trivial issue I had turned out to probably be a small video driver issue.
Boot up time and installation to HD was quick and painless. Users report a less than 15 minute install time to HD. Amazing.
For a base OpenSolaris binary release for other OpenSolaris distro providers to use to enhance upon, this is an impressive reference distro to date.
More to come!
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Stephen Hahn wrote:
> 2008.05 installation test report
>
> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
> Install Media: Physical DVD (Yes I know it's a waste but my burner only makes coasters out of CD's.)
> System Manufacturer: Dell
> System Model #: GX260
> Installed on: 4/28/08
> Issues encountered:
>
System has exactly 512MB of RAM, and has an Intell integrated graphics
chipset that steals memory from the system.
With PR2 I repeatedly got hangs during the install when booted to the
liveCD desktop and running the GUI displayed locally.
I was only able to instal PR2 when I booted to a text console, and ran
'gui-install' with DISPLAY set to another machine.
I just tried to do this remote display of 'gui-install' to instal RC2a,
and it fails silently. I just get a prompt back. No messages. No errors.
No windows on the remote host.
To rule out Network and Xwindows connection problems, I was successful
at running an xterm from the text console with the DISPLAY set. The
xterm window popped up fine on the remote display.
Is there any reason why this shouldn't work in RC2a?
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Kyle McDonald wrote:
> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>> 2008.05 installation test report
>>
>> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
>> Install Media: Physical DVD (Yes I know it's a waste but my burner only makes coasters out of CD's.)
>> System Manufacturer: Dell
>> System Model #: GX260
>> Installed on: 4/28/08
>> Issues encountered:
>>
> System has exactly 512MB of RAM, and has an Intell integrated graphics
> chipset that steals memory from the system.
> With PR2 I repeatedly got hangs during the install when booted to the
> liveCD desktop and running the GUI displayed locally.
> I was only able to instal PR2 when I booted to a text console, and ran
> 'gui-install' with DISPLAY set to another machine.
>
> I just tried to do this remote display of 'gui-install' to instal RC2a,
> and it fails silently. I just get a prompt back. No messages. No errors.
> No windows on the remote host.
>
> To rule out Network and Xwindows connection problems, I was successful
> at running an xterm from the text console with the DISPLAY set. The
> xterm window popped up fine on the remote display.
>
> Is there any reason why this shouldn't work in RC2a?
>
Not that I can think of, but I'd suggest ssh'ing in with X forwarding on
and run it that way. We've done that a bunch.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Dave Miner wrote:
> Kyle McDonald wrote:
>> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>>> 2008.05 installation test report
>>>
>>> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
>>> Install Media: Physical DVD (Yes I know it's a waste but my burner
>>> only makes coasters out of CD's.)
>>> System Manufacturer: Dell
>>> System Model #: GX260
>>> Installed on: 4/28/08
>>> Issues encountered:
>>>
>> System has exactly 512MB of RAM, and has an Intell integrated
>> graphics chipset that steals memory from the system.
>> With PR2 I repeatedly got hangs during the install when booted to the
>> liveCD desktop and running the GUI displayed locally.
>> I was only able to instal PR2 when I booted to a text console, and
>> ran 'gui-install' with DISPLAY set to another machine.
>>
>> I just tried to do this remote display of 'gui-install' to instal
>> RC2a, and it fails silently. I just get a prompt back. No messages.
>> No errors. No windows on the remote host.
>>
>> To rule out Network and Xwindows connection problems, I was
>> successful at running an xterm from the text console with the DISPLAY
>> set. The xterm window popped up fine on the remote display.
>>
>> Is there any reason why this shouldn't work in RC2a?
>>
>
> Not that I can think of, but I'd suggest ssh'ing in with X forwarding
> on and run it that way. We've done that a bunch.
>
I figured it out.
It's not the X Display that's failing. It's some sort of RBAC privledges
check. Should I log a bug for gui-install to print an error when the
permission check fails?
I figured this out becuase when I just retried it I ran 'pfexec
gui-install' instead, and it worked without ssh -X.
-Kyle
> Dave
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Kyle McDonald wrote:
> Dave Miner wrote:
>> Kyle McDonald wrote:
>>> Stephen Hahn wrote:
>>>> 2008.05 installation test report
>>>>
>>>> LiveCD version: 2008-04-24
>>>> Install Media: Physical DVD (Yes I know it's a waste but my burner
>>>> only makes coasters out of CD's.)
>>>> System Manufacturer: Dell
>>>> System Model #: GX260
>>>> Installed on: 4/28/08
>>>> Issues encountered:
>>>>
>>> System has exactly 512MB of RAM, and has an Intell integrated
>>> graphics chipset that steals memory from the system.
>>> With PR2 I repeatedly got hangs during the install when booted to the
>>> liveCD desktop and running the GUI displayed locally.
>>> I was only able to instal PR2 when I booted to a text console, and
>>> ran 'gui-install' with DISPLAY set to another machine.
>>>
>>> I just tried to do this remote display of 'gui-install' to instal
>>> RC2a, and it fails silently. I just get a prompt back. No messages.
>>> No errors. No windows on the remote host.
>>>
>>> To rule out Network and Xwindows connection problems, I was
>>> successful at running an xterm from the text console with the DISPLAY
>>> set. The xterm window popped up fine on the remote display.
>>>
>>> Is there any reason why this shouldn't work in RC2a?
>>>
>> Not that I can think of, but I'd suggest ssh'ing in with X forwarding
>> on and run it that way. We've done that a bunch.
>>
> I figured it out.
>
> It's not the X Display that's failing. It's some sort of RBAC privledges
> check. Should I log a bug for gui-install to print an error when the
> permission check fails?
>
> I figured this out becuase when I just retried it I ran 'pfexec
> gui-install' instead, and it worked without ssh -X.
>
Could have sworn it did already, but yes, please do.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Apr 29, 2008 1:34 AM
in response to: Kyle McDonald
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"I just tried to do this remote display of 'gui-install' to instal RC2a,
and it fails silently. I just get a prompt back. No messages. No errors.
No windows on the remote host."
After ssh -X, do su, then gui-install.
It worked for me.
/Thomas
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Re: Test image for 2008.05 core dumps on Microsoft Hypervisor / Hyper-V
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Apr 28, 2008 7:33 PM
in response to: sch
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I am trying to install inside a Virtual Machine in WIndows Server 2008 64 bit using Hyper-V (Microsoft's hypervisor). I get a dump. Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to attach a gif / png file with the screen capture; I'm not sure what to type.. took a while of trying to get the screen info captured (argh), don't feel like having to type the whole thing out.
#pf Page fault
Bad kernel fault at addr=0xfffffe002d859000
pid=0....
unix:die+ea ()
unix:trap+13b1 ()
unix+cmntrap+e9 ()
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The Express Developer Edition (Community Edition?) boots fine (sol-nv-b87-x86-dvd). The version I'm getting the crash in is in-preview2.iso - Sorry, being this is my first try with Solaris I'm not too familiar with the "proper" names for everything but I think I have these right.
It immediately reboots after trying to dump.
Since this didn't work I figured I'd try VirtualBox, same fault, but crashed the windows host os instead of nicely isolating the crash.. That's my first experience with VirtualBox, doesn't seem to be a very strong "box" if my host crashed.. I however won't judget that harshly at all since I ran it on a box with HyperV also installed and COULD have had some kind of odd conflict of the hypervisors.
Regardless my only point is that both virtualization technologies crashed the same way trying to install on Win 2008 x64. It's Enterprise Edition if you care to know, CPU is Intel E6600 (VT).
Since everything is virtualized I wouldn't expect the other hardware to matter. If someone tries to reproduce and can't then I have other HyperV servers to try to reproduce on that are different hardware. I would expect this is reproducible for anyone that tries.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05 core dumps on Microsoft Hypervisor / Hyper-V
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Apr 28, 2008 10:58 PM
in response to: bitshop
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Never mind my request; Solaris hangs at different points on different versions - ALL the iso images dump eventually, some right at boot, some after the hour long or whatever it was install. Apparently it just won't work virtualized on windows.
If anyone runs into this thread and is looking for links to more info: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3A*&q=site%3Awww.aspdeveloper.net+solaris&btnG=Search has plenty of postings about problems including the one I reported above.
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Apr 30, 2008 5:37 AM
in response to: sch
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Great work overall...this is going to be the Solairs version I've always wanted.
However, primarily as a desktop user, one glaring omission that most Linux distros get right: The Gnome File Browser "tree view" sidebar doesn't show the filesystem hierarchy. Though I've experienced this with most Solaris versions, Indiana should finally try to resolve this.
Thanks and keep up the great work!
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Apr 30, 2008 6:19 AM
in response to: wesw
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On 30 Apr 2008, at 13:37, Wes Williams wrote:
> Great work overall...this is going to be the Solairs version I've
> always wanted.
>
> However, primarily as a desktop user, one glaring omission that most
> Linux distros get right: The Gnome File Browser "tree view"
> sidebar doesn't show the filesystem hierarchy.
It does if you switch the view from "Places" to "Tree", using the
dropdown at the top of the sidebar. ("Places" is the GNOME default
view, and the default in any Linux distro I've used recently... out of
interest, which ones have you used where "Tree" is the default?)
Cheeri,
Calum.
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CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland
mailto:calum dot benson at sun dot com GNOME Desktop Team
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Apr 30, 2008 6:22 AM
in response to: calumb
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On 30 Apr 2008, at 14:19, Calum Benson wrote:
>
> On 30 Apr 2008, at 13:37, Wes Williams wrote:
>
>> Great work overall...this is going to be the Solairs version I've
>> always wanted.
>>
>> However, primarily as a desktop user, one glaring omission that
>> most Linux distros get right: The Gnome File Browser "tree view"
>> sidebar doesn't show the filesystem hierarchy.
>
> It does if you switch the view from "Places" to "Tree", using the
> dropdown at the top of the sidebar. ("Places" is the GNOME default
> view, and the default in any Linux distro I've used recently... out
> of interest, which ones have you used where "Tree" is the default?)
Oops, completely misread your message, I see what you mean now-- the
Tree view only shows Computer and Network Places, not Filesystem. I'd
assume this is a bug, but it's possible we removed it on purpose for
some reason (e.g. some nautilus features have had bad interactions
with NFS mounts in the past).
Cheeri,
Calum.
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CALUM BENSON, Usability Engineer Sun Microsystems Ireland
mailto:calum dot benson at sun dot com GNOME Desktop Team
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Apr 30, 2008 7:07 AM
in response to: calumb
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Hi,
I raised 1724 about this.
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1724
John
Calum Benson wrote:
> On 30 Apr 2008, at 14:19, Calum Benson wrote:
>
>> On 30 Apr 2008, at 13:37, Wes Williams wrote:
>>
>>> Great work overall...this is going to be the Solairs version I've
>>> always wanted.
>>>
>>> However, primarily as a desktop user, one glaring omission that
>>> most Linux distros get right: The Gnome File Browser "tree view"
>>> sidebar doesn't show the filesystem hierarchy.
>> It does if you switch the view from "Places" to "Tree", using the
>> dropdown at the top of the sidebar. ("Places" is the GNOME default
>> view, and the default in any Linux distro I've used recently... out
>> of interest, which ones have you used where "Tree" is the default?)
>
> Oops, completely misread your message, I see what you mean now-- the
> Tree view only shows Computer and Network Places, not Filesystem. I'd
> assume this is a bug, but it's possible we removed it on purpose for
> some reason (e.g. some nautilus features have had bad interactions
> with NFS mounts in the past).
>
> Cheeri,
> Calum.
>
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First impression - Re: Test image for 2008.05
Posted:
May 4, 2008 5:04 AM
in response to: sch
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Well, it took MORE than 60 minutes to install on my desktop computer (see info below).
According to its progress bar, most of the time (99%) it was moving data from the CDROM to disk. I gave it a slice of 15GB on a 160GiB disk. And it had 1.2 GB of RAM to do the job. So what was it doing during more than one hour? This is the looongest installation process I've seen on this machine (having W98, WinXP, FreeBSD, Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS, Gentoo on it).
But, at least, it installed (contrary to Developer Preview 2, which failed to install with no explanation).
On first boot from the hard drive, it took 1 or 2 minutes Loading 139 smf service descriptions.
On subsequent boots, it takes a long time to display 'opensolaris'. The it sends the disk heads to rest, as if it was about to turn of the computer (this is the only OS to do that).
And what about the missing "Restart" button in GNOME? Should I understand that restarting is not in the vocabulary of Solaris (as Dave Bowman could not just unplug the HAL9000)?
Anyway, thanks for your effort.
Charles
======Hardware info===========
64 Bit:False
OS version:SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_86 i86pc i386 i86pc
CPU Type:Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
CPU Number:1
Bios/Firmware Maker:Award Software, Inc.
prtconf -pv:
System Configuration: Sun Microsystems i86pc
Memory size: 1280 Megabytes
MotherBoard Information:
Product:P4B533
Manufacturer:ASUSTeK Computer INC.
CPU Information:
Processor 0:
Processor Socket Type:PGA 478
Processor Name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz
Processor Manufacturer:GenuineIntel
Processor Identifiers:0xf,0x2,0x4
Current Voltage:1.5V
External Clock:100MHZ
Max Speed:3200MHZ
Current Speed:2000MHZ
Virtual Machine Extensions Support:No
Number of cores per processor:1
Number of threads per processor:1
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Re: First impression - Re: Test image for 2008.05
Posted:
May 4, 2008 5:58 AM
in response to: ostester
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> Well, it took MORE than 60 minutes to install on my
> desktop computer (see info below).
> According to its progress bar, most of the time (99%)
> it was moving data from the CDROM to disk. I gave it
> a slice of 15GB on a 160GiB disk. And it had 1.2 GB
> of RAM to do the job. So what was it doing during
> more than one hour? This is the looongest
> installation process I've seen on this machine
> (having W98, WinXP, FreeBSD, Xubuntu, PCLinuxOS,
> Gentoo on it).
For some reason it's VERY slow on older computers (plus zfs is slow on 32bit machines as far as I know), it's quite snappy on newer hardware (about 15-20 minutes to install)
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> But, at least, it installed (contrary to Developer
> Preview 2, which failed to install with no
> explanation).
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> On first boot from the hard drive, it took 1 or 2
> minutes Loading 139 smf service descriptions.
that's just a one time thing
> On subsequent boots, it takes a long time to display
> 'opensolaris'.
> The it sends the disk heads to rest,
> as if it was about to turn of the computer (this is
> the only OS to do that).
I find this very annoying as well, it's http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6622965, even though the submitter already suggested a fix, it still hasn't been fixed in a long time now :(
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> And what about the missing "Restart" button in GNOME?
> Should I understand that restarting is not in the
> vocabulary of Solaris (as Dave Bowman could not just
> unplug the HAL9000)?
I'm sure it'll be added eventually
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Re: First impression - Re: Test image for 2008.05
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May 4, 2008 9:07 AM
in response to: phigamma
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>> The it sends the disk heads to rest,
>> as if it was about to turn of the computer (this is
>> the only OS to do that).
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> I find this very annoying as well, it's http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6622965, even though the submitter already suggested a fix, it still hasn't been fixed in a long time now :(
Thanks for noting the bug - I've raised the priority of the bug and
have requested a status update.
dsc
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Re: First impression - Re: Test image for 2008.05
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May 5, 2008 12:00 AM
in response to: comay
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Thanks David!
Maybe it would be a good idea to add this bug to the list of known issues for 2008.05 ? Imagine someone having 4 hdds and more and hear all of them power down / power up immediately, it won't make a good impression...
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Re: Test image for 2008.05
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Jul 14, 2009 12:52 AM
in response to: sch
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